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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I do agree EVERYONE should be treated with
respect....the strong should protect the vulnerable from abuse, in or out of
Jail. Every human being has value simply because they are a human
with a soul. I don't believe people are "better than or less than"
anyone else. One may be more educated, have wealth or power or
looks, and be a model citizen, with no need to be in Jail, but they
still have a nature that can be selfish, prideful etc. none of us escapes these
human weaknesses, I believe these weaknesses or sins are <STRONG>a
great equalizer</STRONG>, and yet it is a beautiful thing when a human can
rise above and consistently discipline themselves to be productive members
of society. If they give into the vices that plague man they need to
be removed from <STRONG>many of the pleasures</STRONG> that free men
enjoy. I do believe they should be exposed to programs like AA.,
vocational training and things of that nature. Certainly not
unrestricted TV. If they are un-teachable they need to be treated
accordingly with greater restrictions, that they themselves have earned.
I'm glad I don't have the job of trying to run a prison. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carla</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV> Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:37:45 -0400 <A
href="mailto:gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net">gcfl-discuss@gcfl.net</A> writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry I find "name calling" such as SOB
inappropriate for this discussion group. I don't frequent bars or
other chat rooms where I suppose this is more common. I enjoy the
discussions & hope to continue to enjoy them. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carla</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Sorry Carla. I thought this referred to one of my postings, but I had to
go back and look to be sure. I abbreviated for obvious reasons, but that isn't
always good enough. I do expect that the sheriff under discussion, and
certainly most of his deputies, use such language -- or worse -- all the time
in dealing with those in their custody. Again, there may be exceptions, but in
general it is commonplace. I expect any complaint about it would be met with
some variation on "this isn't a hotel" -- the most worn-out cop-out used by
prison and jail administrators. (One sheriff even used that phrase to deflect
criticism that rapes take place several times a day in his jail, can be heard
by other prisoners of both genders, and that no attempt is made to intervene
and put a stop to it). So, yes, it is inappropriate for the discussion group,
and it is not generally accepted among most people I spend time with either.
But to anyone who enjoys humiliating prisoners, this kind of language goes
along with the pink underwear. At some point we have to get a grip on:</DIV>
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<DIV>1) If you want people to learn respect, you have to show them some
respect.</DIV>
<DIV>2) If you are better than them, show it by example, not by stomping on
them.</DIV>
<DIV>3) If you don't want such language in your life, be vigilant about not
allowing it to be visited upon people who have no choice.</DIV>
<DIV>4) Do unto those in prison what you would have done to you if you were in
prison -- assume you are guilty and penitent, what would you think YOU
deserve?</DIV>
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<DIV>All this is possible without losing control. Some people will still need
to be firmly removed from general population and isolated for the good of
everyone else.</DIV>
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<DIV>Siarlys</DIV>
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